1 00:00:00,790 --> 00:00:07,320 [Music] 2 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:09,350 [Applause] 3 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:12,610 hello I'm Jessica Kramer part of the 4 00:00:16,740 --> 00:00:14,290 chemical analysis and life detection 5 00:00:18,930 --> 00:00:16,750 group at JPL our group is interested in 6 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:18,940 building instruments and methodologies 7 00:00:23,150 --> 00:00:21,490 to search for chemical signs of life on 8 00:00:25,950 --> 00:00:23,160 other planets 9 00:00:27,180 --> 00:00:25,960 one particularly interesting target and 10 00:00:30,510 --> 00:00:27,190 the reason we're all here in this room 11 00:00:33,390 --> 00:00:30,520 is Enceladus the chairs of this session 12 00:00:35,100 --> 00:00:33,400 did a great job in motivating all the 13 00:00:37,260 --> 00:00:35,110 different lines of evidence the Cassini 14 00:00:39,830 --> 00:00:37,270 found that showed that there could be an 15 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:39,840 active motion rock interface in 16 00:00:45,569 --> 00:00:42,730 Enceladus is ocean this is a really 17 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:45,579 exciting discovery and opens up a lot of 18 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:47,050 questions as to the habitability of 19 00:00:51,780 --> 00:00:48,850 Enceladus is ocean and the chemical 20 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:51,790 composition and really is a nice 21 00:00:57,810 --> 00:00:55,450 motivator for sending another follow-on 22 00:01:00,750 --> 00:00:57,820 mission to pick up where Cassini left 23 00:01:03,389 --> 00:01:00,760 off and really get more specific 24 00:01:06,749 --> 00:01:03,399 chemical analysis done on the compounds 25 00:01:08,340 --> 00:01:06,759 in the plant water one particular target 26 00:01:10,529 --> 00:01:08,350 that we're interested in going to look 27 00:01:11,700 --> 00:01:10,539 for our amino acids amino acids can tell 28 00:01:13,140 --> 00:01:11,710 you a lot about what's happening in the 29 00:01:15,410 --> 00:01:13,150 planet because they can be generated 30 00:01:17,490 --> 00:01:15,420 abiotic ly through geochemical processes 31 00:01:21,210 --> 00:01:17,500 they can also be an indication of 32 00:01:26,399 --> 00:01:21,220 prebiotic chemistry and then also maybe 33 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:26,409 point to the presence of extant life but 34 00:01:30,420 --> 00:01:28,450 it's not exactly enough to just go and 35 00:01:32,250 --> 00:01:30,430 find amino acids because they can be 36 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:32,260 made a biotic aliy and in fact there is 37 00:01:36,870 --> 00:01:35,290 a lot of overlap between the amino acids 38 00:01:38,490 --> 00:01:36,880 that are formed biotic lees and those 39 00:01:40,969 --> 00:01:38,500 are formed abiotic ly and those that are 40 00:01:44,190 --> 00:01:40,979 used in biotic systems not surprisingly 41 00:01:46,260 --> 00:01:44,200 so instead it'd be good to go and bring 42 00:01:48,870 --> 00:01:46,270 a technique that can survey all the 43 00:01:50,310 --> 00:01:48,880 different amino acids in the sample and 44 00:01:51,719 --> 00:01:50,320 once you have that you have that 45 00:01:53,340 --> 00:01:51,729 information you can start to look for 46 00:01:56,310 --> 00:01:53,350 patterns that can indicate the presence 47 00:01:57,990 --> 00:01:56,320 of abiotic or biotic chemistry one of 48 00:02:00,749 --> 00:01:58,000 those patterns is what type of amino 49 00:02:02,789 --> 00:02:00,759 acids are there in particular histidine 50 00:02:05,399 --> 00:02:02,799 is only made through biotic chemistry so 51 00:02:06,990 --> 00:02:05,409 if you were to find that somewhere and 52 00:02:08,609 --> 00:02:07,000 you know we didn't bring it with us 53 00:02:10,289 --> 00:02:08,619 then it would be a good indication that 54 00:02:14,190 --> 00:02:10,299 something other than a biotic chemistry 55 00:02:15,930 --> 00:02:14,200 was taking place the next pattern you 56 00:02:16,260 --> 00:02:15,940 can look at is the relative abundance of 57 00:02:17,970 --> 00:02:16,270 the 58 00:02:20,220 --> 00:02:17,980 you know since you find to glycine 59 00:02:22,140 --> 00:02:20,230 glycine is the smallest and easiest to 60 00:02:25,050 --> 00:02:22,150 synthesize amino acid so a body 61 00:02:28,460 --> 00:02:25,060 chemistry makes a lot of it with respect 62 00:02:32,790 --> 00:02:28,470 to the larger more complex amino acids 63 00:02:35,790 --> 00:02:32,800 but life needs complexity so relative to 64 00:02:37,110 --> 00:02:35,800 glycine life uses more of those complex 65 00:02:39,410 --> 00:02:37,120 amino acids in suits use a higher 66 00:02:43,530 --> 00:02:39,420 abundance of those in biotic samples and 67 00:02:46,020 --> 00:02:43,540 then finally chirality in abiotic 68 00:02:47,940 --> 00:02:46,030 systems the left and right-handed 69 00:02:50,820 --> 00:02:47,950 version of the amino acids are generally 70 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:50,830 created in a 50/50 mixture so if you 71 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:52,210 were to see any sort of enantiomeric 72 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:54,010 excess or homo chirality that would be a 73 00:02:59,610 --> 00:02:55,690 really good indication that it's not 74 00:03:01,470 --> 00:02:59,620 just a biotic chemistry so in order to 75 00:03:03,090 --> 00:03:01,480 go and search for those signs you need a 76 00:03:04,890 --> 00:03:03,100 technique that can take a sample that 77 00:03:06,300 --> 00:03:04,900 has a mixture of all those amino acids 78 00:03:08,370 --> 00:03:06,310 separate them out so that you can 79 00:03:11,670 --> 00:03:08,380 individually identify and quantify them 80 00:03:13,860 --> 00:03:11,680 and then technique that we think is the 81 00:03:16,170 --> 00:03:13,870 best is capillary electrophoresis 82 00:03:19,020 --> 00:03:16,180 it's a voltage driven separation and 83 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:19,030 it's all liquid based so which is really 84 00:03:25,140 --> 00:03:21,130 good when you're going to go study water 85 00:03:26,850 --> 00:03:25,150 or ice it also has very low limits of 86 00:03:28,500 --> 00:03:26,860 detection down to nano molar or parts 87 00:03:31,380 --> 00:03:28,510 per trillion when coupled with laser 88 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:31,390 induced fluorescence detection and it's 89 00:03:36,930 --> 00:03:34,050 miniaturize a bowl so this is the big 90 00:03:38,100 --> 00:03:36,940 this is the big system the commercial 91 00:03:40,350 --> 00:03:38,110 system it's about the size of a 92 00:03:42,990 --> 00:03:40,360 dishwasher and this is one of our 93 00:03:44,850 --> 00:03:43,000 portable systems the chemical laptop 94 00:03:45,750 --> 00:03:44,860 that is about the size of a shoebox so 95 00:03:47,220 --> 00:03:45,760 if you're interested in learning about 96 00:03:49,620 --> 00:03:47,230 how we're shrinking that technology and 97 00:03:55,980 --> 00:03:49,630 making it more portable go to Fernandez 98 00:03:59,070 --> 00:03:55,990 talk tomorrow so see e works by filling 99 00:04:01,560 --> 00:03:59,080 a small bore capillary about 50 micron 100 00:04:04,050 --> 00:04:01,570 in our diameter with a conductive 101 00:04:07,170 --> 00:04:04,060 solution you can then inject your liquid 102 00:04:11,490 --> 00:04:07,180 sample directly onto the capillary and 103 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:11,500 when you apply a voltage everything in 104 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:13,330 that plug starts to separate based on 105 00:04:17,280 --> 00:04:15,970 its size to charge ratio so you start to 106 00:04:21,570 --> 00:04:17,290 get a separation of all the different 107 00:04:23,110 --> 00:04:21,580 compounds in solution as those separate 108 00:04:24,790 --> 00:04:23,120 they move down the capillary 109 00:04:28,060 --> 00:04:24,800 they move past the detector in our case 110 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:28,070 a laser and so you can collect a signal 111 00:04:31,420 --> 00:04:29,690 versus time plot we call an 112 00:04:33,070 --> 00:04:31,430 electropherogram that can be used for 113 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:33,080 identification and quantification of the 114 00:04:37,990 --> 00:04:36,410 different species in solution so this is 115 00:04:41,500 --> 00:04:38,000 our electropherogram from a method that 116 00:04:43,390 --> 00:04:41,510 we made this method targets the 13 most 117 00:04:45,610 --> 00:04:43,400 abundant amino acids found in both 118 00:04:47,650 --> 00:04:45,620 abiotic and biotic samples there's a lot 119 00:04:49,420 --> 00:04:47,660 of overlap there and so with a with 120 00:04:50,710 --> 00:04:49,430 these 13 amino acids you can look for 121 00:04:52,780 --> 00:04:50,720 those bio signatures I talked about 122 00:04:55,330 --> 00:04:52,790 previously so you can see we have 13 123 00:05:01,719 --> 00:04:55,340 minutes and but we also are able to hang 124 00:05:03,189 --> 00:05:01,729 it on bed at that separate the left and 125 00:05:05,020 --> 00:05:03,199 right handed versions of the amino acids 126 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:05,030 for five different amino acids so we can 127 00:05:10,210 --> 00:05:08,050 look for that chiral signature as well 128 00:05:12,070 --> 00:05:10,220 so back when I published the method in 129 00:05:14,350 --> 00:05:12,080 2017 our limits of detection were 130 00:05:16,390 --> 00:05:14,360 between 5 and 100 animal it's pretty 131 00:05:19,060 --> 00:05:16,400 good but we've been able to get them 132 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:19,070 down even lower to between 1 and 25 and 133 00:05:22,659 --> 00:05:20,690 animal or depending on the amino acid 134 00:05:25,150 --> 00:05:22,669 and this is really great because it puts 135 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:25,160 us in the range of what we see for Earth 136 00:05:29,740 --> 00:05:27,530 analogue like sub glacial lake 137 00:05:31,089 --> 00:05:29,750 environments for free amino acids so 138 00:05:34,469 --> 00:05:31,099 we're in a good place to be able to 139 00:05:36,580 --> 00:05:34,479 detect free amino acids in ocean water 140 00:05:39,580 --> 00:05:36,590 another great thing about this technique 141 00:05:41,409 --> 00:05:39,590 is it makes it really easy for end and 142 00:05:43,060 --> 00:05:41,419 analysis of liquid samples if you have a 143 00:05:45,430 --> 00:05:43,070 liquid sample all you need to do is mix 144 00:05:47,980 --> 00:05:45,440 it with some reagents to fix the pH add 145 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:47,990 your fluorescent tag and then analyze 146 00:05:51,909 --> 00:05:49,970 that directly because we get those low 147 00:05:53,500 --> 00:05:51,919 limits of detection and because we're 148 00:05:57,339 --> 00:05:53,510 doing separation you don't need to do 149 00:06:00,129 --> 00:05:57,349 any additional pre concentration or 150 00:06:01,779 --> 00:06:00,139 desalting in fact we're able to look at 151 00:06:04,870 --> 00:06:01,789 a variety of different samples here are 152 00:06:08,820 --> 00:06:04,880 the Mono Lake water and Atacama soil 153 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:08,830 extract and we can see very low 154 00:06:12,430 --> 00:06:10,849 concentrations of amino acids in these 155 00:06:16,390 --> 00:06:12,440 samples even though there's a variety of 156 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:16,400 different salts and other things in the 157 00:06:21,189 --> 00:06:18,970 matrix 158 00:06:24,060 --> 00:06:21,199 so because of the capabilities of this 159 00:06:26,650 --> 00:06:24,070 method it was selected as part of the 160 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:26,660 analysis suite on a new frontiers 161 00:06:30,189 --> 00:06:28,490 proposal called Elsa this is the 162 00:06:33,010 --> 00:06:30,199 Enceladus life signatures and 163 00:06:36,060 --> 00:06:33,020 habitability mission and it's a multi 164 00:06:38,590 --> 00:06:36,070 Center collaboration 165 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:38,600 it's a flyby mission so it would fly 166 00:06:42,730 --> 00:06:40,490 through the plumes collect sample that 167 00:06:45,670 --> 00:06:42,740 sample would be transferred to a sample 168 00:06:47,469 --> 00:06:45,680 handling system and I think Spice from 169 00:06:49,930 --> 00:06:47,479 Ames is going to talk about that next in 170 00:06:51,850 --> 00:06:49,940 this session that sample handling system 171 00:06:53,260 --> 00:06:51,860 also includes the reagent storage needed 172 00:06:55,150 --> 00:06:53,270 to be able to run the capillary 173 00:06:59,499 --> 00:06:55,160 electrophoresis test and analyze for 174 00:07:01,810 --> 00:06:59,509 those chiral amino acids and else I 175 00:07:03,219 --> 00:07:01,820 didn't get selected this time but I 176 00:07:04,779 --> 00:07:03,229 think there will be a second proposal 177 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:04,789 because I think it's a really important 178 00:07:11,050 --> 00:07:07,970 mission and so in order to get ready for 179 00:07:13,900 --> 00:07:11,060 the next proposal we will be we've been 180 00:07:15,430 --> 00:07:13,910 demonstrating when the stability of the 181 00:07:17,499 --> 00:07:15,440 hardware and the chemicals under 182 00:07:19,540 --> 00:07:17,509 spaceflight conditions in order to 183 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:19,550 increase the TRL or technology readiness 184 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:22,610 level of this technique I've been 185 00:07:25,540 --> 00:07:23,930 focusing more on the chemical side of 186 00:07:28,870 --> 00:07:25,550 things but if you're interested in 187 00:07:30,850 --> 00:07:28,880 hardware go see Nathan o Bernie's poster 188 00:07:33,339 --> 00:07:30,860 tonight he's going to talk about making 189 00:07:37,990 --> 00:07:33,349 radiation tolerant hardware specifically 190 00:07:39,430 --> 00:07:38,000 for the detection side of things the 191 00:07:40,180 --> 00:07:39,440 chemical stability is really important 192 00:07:41,830 --> 00:07:40,190 too and it's something that people 193 00:07:44,260 --> 00:07:41,840 always have questions about because 194 00:07:46,180 --> 00:07:44,270 we're bringing these like complex mostly 195 00:07:47,850 --> 00:07:46,190 organic molecules along with us and 196 00:07:51,279 --> 00:07:47,860 they're worried about them falling apart 197 00:07:52,779 --> 00:07:51,289 so the important chemicals for this test 198 00:07:55,149 --> 00:07:52,789 or the fluorescent dye this is how we 199 00:07:56,860 --> 00:07:55,159 label our amino acids and create a 200 00:08:00,180 --> 00:07:56,870 fluorescent compound then that's what 201 00:08:02,379 --> 00:08:00,190 the separation is designed to detect and 202 00:08:04,089 --> 00:08:02,389 then in order to get that really nice 203 00:08:05,830 --> 00:08:04,099 chiral resolution the resolution of all 204 00:08:06,969 --> 00:08:05,840 those amino acids at once we do need a 205 00:08:08,589 --> 00:08:06,979 kind of complicated background 206 00:08:10,839 --> 00:08:08,599 electrolyte that's the conductive 207 00:08:13,839 --> 00:08:10,849 solution that fills the capillary it's a 208 00:08:15,879 --> 00:08:13,849 mixture of three powdered reagents and 209 00:08:18,249 --> 00:08:15,889 it's mixed with an aqueous solution of 210 00:08:19,930 --> 00:08:18,259 six percent of co2 nitrile so all that 211 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:19,940 needs to fly in order to be able to 212 00:08:25,830 --> 00:08:24,050 perform this assay so radiation is the 213 00:08:28,209 --> 00:08:25,840 big problem 214 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:28,219 traditionally organic chemistry isn't 215 00:08:31,900 --> 00:08:29,810 great under radiation 216 00:08:33,969 --> 00:08:31,910 so we were pretty worried about this and 217 00:08:36,490 --> 00:08:33,979 to choose the worst case scenario we 218 00:08:37,899 --> 00:08:36,500 chose Europa this is far worse than 219 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:37,909 anything we'd see in intelligence but 220 00:08:41,649 --> 00:08:39,530 still if we can do it under these 221 00:08:44,770 --> 00:08:41,659 conditions then we can do it anywhere so 222 00:08:46,570 --> 00:08:44,780 we chose the number from the Europa 223 00:08:49,870 --> 00:08:46,580 Lander science definition team report of 224 00:08:52,090 --> 00:08:49,880 300 killer ad the first thing we tested 225 00:08:54,370 --> 00:08:52,100 was our die so we exposed the die to 300 226 00:08:56,190 --> 00:08:54,380 killer ad and we were actually kind of 227 00:08:58,900 --> 00:08:56,200 shocked that it was fine 228 00:09:00,820 --> 00:08:58,910 not only did it retain its flora for so 229 00:09:03,610 --> 00:09:00,830 it allowed us to be able to detect it at 230 00:09:07,990 --> 00:09:03,620 the same concentrations as non 231 00:09:10,510 --> 00:09:08,000 irradiated die but it retained they 232 00:09:12,610 --> 00:09:10,520 retained this leaving group so this is a 233 00:09:14,829 --> 00:09:12,620 pretty labile chemical because it's 234 00:09:18,550 --> 00:09:14,839 needed to react with the amino acids but 235 00:09:21,100 --> 00:09:18,560 it was able to retain the labeling 236 00:09:22,870 --> 00:09:21,110 efficiency and then even better than 237 00:09:24,910 --> 00:09:22,880 that there were no additional Peaks 238 00:09:26,410 --> 00:09:24,920 formed so this is a fluorescent molecule 239 00:09:27,820 --> 00:09:26,420 so when you start to radiate it and it 240 00:09:29,710 --> 00:09:27,830 starts to degrade it can turn into other 241 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:29,720 fluorescent molecules that can interfere 242 00:09:35,500 --> 00:09:31,370 with our separation and we didn't see 243 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:35,510 that so this was really great we also 244 00:09:38,680 --> 00:09:37,130 irradiated the background electrolyte 245 00:09:40,329 --> 00:09:38,690 and we found that as long as we keep the 246 00:09:42,670 --> 00:09:40,339 powdered reagents separate from the 247 00:09:44,130 --> 00:09:42,680 liquid reagents during the irradiation 248 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:44,140 and then mix them for analysis 249 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:46,250 everything is fine we don't see any 250 00:09:49,780 --> 00:09:48,410 effects in migration time drift or 251 00:09:52,780 --> 00:09:49,790 difference in resolution between our 252 00:09:54,460 --> 00:09:52,790 Peaks and this just means that we have 253 00:09:55,510 --> 00:09:54,470 to have a sample handling system that 254 00:09:58,380 --> 00:09:55,520 can keep the liquid and the solid 255 00:10:01,710 --> 00:09:58,390 separate into how we're ready to use it 256 00:10:04,420 --> 00:10:01,720 and then the next thing we did 257 00:10:05,590 --> 00:10:04,430 especially for the dye we looked at the 258 00:10:07,750 --> 00:10:05,600 long-term storage at elevated 259 00:10:09,190 --> 00:10:07,760 temperatures so the diet is fairly 260 00:10:10,780 --> 00:10:09,200 sensitive to increases in temperature 261 00:10:12,910 --> 00:10:10,790 because the main degradation pathways 262 00:10:16,180 --> 00:10:12,920 hydrolysis the hotter it gets the faster 263 00:10:18,220 --> 00:10:16,190 that's gonna happen and the manufacturer 264 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:18,230 recommends that you store it at negative 265 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:21,770 5 C for one year and we that's too short 266 00:10:27,340 --> 00:10:26,210 for us so we needed to make sure that it 267 00:10:29,050 --> 00:10:27,350 was going to be okay at higher 268 00:10:32,079 --> 00:10:29,060 temperatures for longer so we stored it 269 00:10:34,540 --> 00:10:32,089 for one month six months one year and 270 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:34,550 two years a variety of different 271 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:37,850 temperatures so we chose 4 C 25 272 00:10:44,350 --> 00:10:42,410 see and 60c you can see that at the 273 00:10:47,980 --> 00:10:44,360 elevated temperatures and longer storage 274 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:47,990 times do start to get this increase in 275 00:10:51,220 --> 00:10:49,610 background so that's the degradation of 276 00:10:53,980 --> 00:10:51,230 the die increasing the background 277 00:10:56,439 --> 00:10:53,990 however even at the worst case with 6ec 278 00:10:58,559 --> 00:10:56,449 for two years we're still able to detect 279 00:11:00,879 --> 00:10:58,569 a majority of our amino acids including 280 00:11:02,590 --> 00:11:00,889 glycine and histidine which were too 281 00:11:07,780 --> 00:11:02,600 poor important ones for those bio 282 00:11:09,879 --> 00:11:07,790 signatures that we talked about so C is 283 00:11:11,670 --> 00:11:09,889 a great technique it can provide Carle 284 00:11:13,870 --> 00:11:11,680 resolution very low limits of detection 285 00:11:15,460 --> 00:11:13,880 the chemicals needed to perform this 286 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:15,470 assay are stable up to three hundred 287 00:11:21,430 --> 00:11:17,930 killer AD which makes them viable to fly 288 00:11:23,199 --> 00:11:21,440 just about anywhere we would will need a 289 00:11:25,420 --> 00:11:23,209 thermal control in the vault to keep the 290 00:11:27,699 --> 00:11:25,430 dye at a lower temperature so it doesn't 291 00:11:31,319 --> 00:11:27,709 start to degrade but these are the first 292 00:11:36,030 --> 00:11:31,329 steps in making this technique more 293 00:11:38,379 --> 00:11:36,040 viable for future trip to mental abyss 294 00:11:40,449 --> 00:11:38,389 so I want to thank the funding and then 295 00:11:42,220 --> 00:11:40,459 also my group is here in force so if 296 00:11:44,319 --> 00:11:42,230 you're interested in this stuff please 297 00:11:46,750 --> 00:11:44,329 and go and look at their posters and go 298 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:46,760 watch their talks thanks 299 00:11:50,390 --> 00:11:49,530 [Applause] 300 00:11:56,500 --> 00:11:50,400 [Music] 301 00:12:05,390 --> 00:12:02,540 yeah yeah 302 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:05,400 Richard Malthus chemistry and the space 303 00:12:10,100 --> 00:12:07,650 sciences lab at UC Berkeley 304 00:12:11,810 --> 00:12:10,110 the fly-through profile is very 305 00:12:14,060 --> 00:12:11,820 interesting but of course one of the big 306 00:12:15,650 --> 00:12:14,070 challenges that we worry about and I 307 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:15,660 suspect you worry about is how in the 308 00:12:20,300 --> 00:12:18,210 world do you capture the molecules in 309 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:20,310 the plume and what velocity do you 310 00:12:25,430 --> 00:12:23,010 transit through the plume okay so what 311 00:12:27,980 --> 00:12:25,440 what did you propose to do and what are 312 00:12:29,930 --> 00:12:27,990 the issues and solutions to that issue 313 00:12:33,260 --> 00:12:29,940 so I can't actually talk about that 314 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:33,270 because that's proposal specific but we 315 00:12:39,980 --> 00:12:37,050 did propose something and if if amino 316 00:12:45,740 --> 00:12:39,990 acids are there we will detect them okay 317 00:12:48,560 --> 00:12:45,750 that's that's all just a quick question 318 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:48,570 how much liquid sample would you need to 319 00:12:52,670 --> 00:12:51,450 do to do your analysis um so the 320 00:12:54,620 --> 00:12:52,680 injection plug for capillary 321 00:12:56,570 --> 00:12:54,630 electrophoresis about four nanoliters 322 00:12:59,750 --> 00:12:56,580 so we only need a couple of microliters 323 00:13:05,420 --> 00:12:59,760 of sample in order to couple of 324 00:13:07,820 --> 00:13:05,430 microliters okay thanks yep hi I wanted 325 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:07,830 to know if you test this dye against 326 00:13:12,260 --> 00:13:10,050 other nitrogen in your compost like 327 00:13:14,330 --> 00:13:12,270 amines and if it's stable like for 328 00:13:16,580 --> 00:13:14,340 example with alcohols and some other 329 00:13:17,510 --> 00:13:16,590 nucleophiles to be sure to react with 330 00:13:20,150 --> 00:13:17,520 your other nucleophiles 331 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:20,160 so this is an amine specific dye I think 332 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:22,890 it's I don't think there's any cross 333 00:13:27,230 --> 00:13:25,770 reactivity with like other nucleophiles 334 00:13:29,420 --> 00:13:27,240 I'm pretty sure but I mean a couple 335 00:13:32,300 --> 00:13:29,430 amines in the mixture we let me know ask 336 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:32,310 it yeah I'm five you test that yeah and 337 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:34,170 so that's the benefit of separation oh 338 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:35,730 is it if there's a whole bunch of means 339 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:38,730 in there we'll label them but then